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	<title>Comments on: Antiquated RSS feeds (Scott Hartsman, I&#8217;m looking at you)</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Hartsman - Off the Record &#187; Feed Readers: Is this site busted?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Hartsman - Off the Record &#187; Feed Readers: Is this site busted?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Martin helpfully and subtly pointed out that the RSS feed from this site is only showing summaries of the posts when viewed in certain [...]</description>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, the only check I did was to open things up in a second feed reader (firefox) to check it wasn&#039;t *only* my reader.

But looking more carefully ... My understanding: in your case (not so for gamedev.net, where I believe they deliberately keep the feed shorter than the actual page) it might be that most feed readers are imperfect, including the one built in to my web browser (try following the feed link in firefox, for instance).

The data for the entries is there, but it&#039;s encoded twice, once as a 100 word limit tagged &quot;description&quot; (which is what the basic readers pick up), and a second time as the full text tagged &quot;content:encoded&quot; (which they do NOT pick up). At least, not with the RSS header you have...

I find the world of RSS and all its variants far too complex to ever remember which is which and what&#039;s the latest, so I confess off the top of my head not to know whether your feed is the new way, or the old way, of tagging data. I can only say that the first two readers I tried barfed on it :).

I do know that BrokenToys has the same tagging, but a different RSS header, and the full text appears happily in the same readers that won&#039;t render your full text :). Joy!

PS: Wordpress 2.5 is out. They changed a lot. I&#039;m not sure I like all of the changes. But, you might want to try it. I had &lt;a href=&quot;http://t-machine.org/index.php/2008/04/08/wordpress-25-cant-login-blog-broken-debian-sucks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a FAIL with the upgrade that I managed to find an easy fix for in the end&lt;/a&gt;, so YMMV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the only check I did was to open things up in a second feed reader (firefox) to check it wasn&#8217;t *only* my reader.</p>
<p>But looking more carefully &#8230; My understanding: in your case (not so for gamedev.net, where I believe they deliberately keep the feed shorter than the actual page) it might be that most feed readers are imperfect, including the one built in to my web browser (try following the feed link in firefox, for instance).</p>
<p>The data for the entries is there, but it&#8217;s encoded twice, once as a 100 word limit tagged &#8220;description&#8221; (which is what the basic readers pick up), and a second time as the full text tagged &#8220;content:encoded&#8221; (which they do NOT pick up). At least, not with the RSS header you have&#8230;</p>
<p>I find the world of RSS and all its variants far too complex to ever remember which is which and what&#8217;s the latest, so I confess off the top of my head not to know whether your feed is the new way, or the old way, of tagging data. I can only say that the first two readers I tried barfed on it :).</p>
<p>I do know that BrokenToys has the same tagging, but a different RSS header, and the full text appears happily in the same readers that won&#8217;t render your full text :). Joy!</p>
<p>PS: Wordpress 2.5 is out. They changed a lot. I&#8217;m not sure I like all of the changes. But, you might want to try it. I had <a href="http://t-machine.org/index.php/2008/04/08/wordpress-25-cant-login-blog-broken-debian-sucks/"  rel="nofollow">a FAIL with the upgrade that I managed to find an easy fix for in the end</a>, so YMMV.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hartsman</title>
		<link>http://t-machine.org/index.php/2008/04/14/antiquated-rss-feeds-scott-hartsman-im-looking-at-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1725</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hartsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s one way to get someone&#039;s attention. :)

Are you sure it&#039;s a feed problem and not a reader problem?  (And if it&#039;s a feed problem, have any suggestions on how to fix it?  Everything on my blog is stock,  straight out of the distro.)

Both the RSS and Atom feeds show the whole article to me, but I&#039;ve only ever looked at them in Sage.

- Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s one way to get someone&#8217;s attention. :)</p>
<p>Are you sure it&#8217;s a feed problem and not a reader problem?  (And if it&#8217;s a feed problem, have any suggestions on how to fix it?  Everything on my blog is stock,  straight out of the distro.)</p>
<p>Both the RSS and Atom feeds show the whole article to me, but I&#8217;ve only ever looked at them in Sage.</p>
<p>- Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Lukas Loesche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lukas Loesche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m subscribed to Scott&#039;s feed too and don&#039;t have this 100 word problem. Though I am subscribed to the Atom feed not RSS. Maybe there&#039;s a difference between the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m subscribed to Scott&#8217;s feed too and don&#8217;t have this 100 word problem. Though I am subscribed to the Atom feed not RSS. Maybe there&#8217;s a difference between the two.</p>
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